Laura Madeline Wiseman: Your chapbook Are the Children Make Believe? is written from a variety of viewpoints that document a generation. Your poems “Grown-ups” and “Millennial” explore the “which tools” of suicide and self-harm with a sharp, action-focused inquiry. Talk about care and kindness in poetry. What is the work of a poet to craft a compassionate gaze with the poem?
Elizabeth Jacobson: Are the Children Make Believe? is also a long poem, but with 20 titled sections, all of which draw from incidents I experienced personally or which were relayed to me by others. In Grown Ups, there is an irony to this title as well as sarcasm and dark humor in the conversation between the adults discussing the attempted suicide of a college freshman as a way for them to alleviate some of the pain they feel for what has perhaps become an epidemic in our country. There are several other sections in the poem with the viewpoint of a mother, and although this interpretation is loose, to my mind this is the same mother, one who has suffered the attempted suicide of her own child, and it is she who is in conversation with her therapist in the poem Grown Ups. In this way, there is a kind of sigh, a release of emotional tension and anguish through the dark humor. In Millennial (there are two sections with this title, and this speaker) it becomes clear in the second section the speaker’s pain and eating disorder is most likely a symptom of her PTSD in response to her father’s suicide. Again, there is sarcasm and dark humor in the speaker’s choice of words, which are attempts at masking her pain, but which, as in Grown Ups, is apparent to the reader. The compassionate act in writing Are the Children Make Believe? is the factual telling of unquantifiably painful, horrific, palpable and emotional incidents. Readers can then form a compassionate gaze for themselves: Here are the facts, this is happening now in our country— are you moved by this? Have these things happened to you? What can we do to help?